Part one, aired Jan. 16, 2020:

ANDERSON COOPER: “You loved President Trump.”

LEV PARNAS: “Loved him. I mean, when the FBI came to my house, my wife felt embarrassed because they said I had a shrine to him. I had pictures all over. I mean, I idolized him. I thought he was the savior.”

COOPER: “Did you think you were friends?”

PARNAS: “Absolutely. I mean, again: I went from being a top donor, from being at all the events where we were just socializing, to becoming a close friend of Rudy Giuliani’s, to eventually becoming his ally and his asset on the ground in Ukraine.”

COOPER: “When you were arrested, the President of the United States said that he didn’t know you.”

    [10-10-2019 CLIP OF TRUMP: “I don’t know those gentlemen. Now, it’s possible I have a picture with them, because I have a picture with everybody. I don’t know them.”]

PARNAS: “The truth is out now, thank God. Yesterday was a big day for us [sending information to the Senate]. I thank God every day. I was worried that that day is not going to come. I thought they were going to shut me up and make me look like the scapegoat and try and blame me for stuff that I wasn’t doing. But with God’s help and the great legal team that I have beside me, we were able to get that information out. Now it’s out there, so I welcome him to say that even more. Every time he says that, I will show them another picture.”

COOPER: “He’s lying?”

PARNAS: “He’s lying.”


COOPER: “Your attorney in a tweet had said that there were two times in which you gave the message of a quid pro quo to Ukrainian officials. What were those two times?”

PARNAS: “I think there were probably more than two times. But the first quid pro quo, again, was when we met with President Poroshenko.”

COOPER: “The former president.”

PARNAS: “Former President Poroshenko.”

COOPER: “What was your message to Poroshenko?”

PARNAS: “For Poroshenko it was that, if he would make the announcement, that he would get—Trump would either invite him to the White House or make a statement for him, but basically would start supporting him for president.”

COOPER: “So that was the first quid pro quo: Poroshenko could come to the White House, get a meeting with Trump, if he announces an investigation [into the Bidens]. Correct?”

PARNAS: “Correct.”

COOPER: “What was the next one?”

PARNAS: “You have to understand that this was a transition time. Zelensky just won. He was president-elect. The most, number one thing on their agenda was not even the transition, it was to get the inauguration [visit], because it was a big thing, he was a young president.”

COOPER: “To show the American backing of the new administration.”

PARNAS: “Of course. Because he had no strength with Russia . . .”

COOPER: “Giuliani cancels his visit, because there’s a lot of bad publicity about it in the United States. He cancels his visit. You go have the meeting with the high level official in Zelensky’s circle. What’s the message you deliver?”

PARNAS: “I basically told them very strict and very stern several things: a) that Zelensky needed to make an announcement literally that night, or tomorrow, within the next 24 hours, that they were opening up an investigation on Biden.”

COOPER: “At that point, was there any mention of withholding of aid?”

PARNAS: “Yeah. If they didn’t make the announcement, basically there would be no relationship. Not just, there was no specific military—there was no aid that was going to be assisted. There was going to be no inauguration [visit]. Pence wasn’t going to be at the inauguration, and there would be no visit to the White House. There would be basically, they would have no communication.”


COOPER: “So you told the top official in the Zelensky inner circle that if they did not announce an investigation of the Bidens immediately, and get rid of some folks around Zelensky who they believed were opposed to President Trump, that there wouldn’t be any aid, and Vice President Pence wouldn’t even come to the inauguration. Correct?

PARNAS: [Nods yes.]

COOPER: “And what happened? What did they say?”

PARNAS: “I called Rudy and I told him that I didn’t think there was going to be an announcement. And he said, ok, they’ll see.”

COOPER: “They’ll see?”

PARNAS: “They’ll see.”

COOPER: “And what happened the next day?”

PANRAS: “I got called and said they got a call—that basically they found out that Pence is not going to be there. He got cancelled. I think they said there was a scheduling problem or something.”

COOPER: “The day after you delivered that message.”

PANARAS: “Correct. On the 3rd—was a Monday, the 13th [of May?]. And then after that, I think on the 16th or the 15th, I don’t remember the date—they were flipping out, because they didn’t know what to do. They didn’t want to be embarrassed. They didn’t know if anybody at all is going to show up. But they knew Pence wasn’t coming. Trump wasn’t coming.”

COOPER: “How did you have the authority to say, the vice president of the United States will not attend the inauguration if you don’t do what I say?”

PARNAS: “That’s what I was told to do.”

COOPER: “Who told you to do that?”

PARNAS: “Rudy Giuliani.”


PARNAS: “After Rudy would speak with the president or come from the White House, I was the first person he briefed. We had a relationship. We were that close. We were together from morning until night. Every interview he would do, I would be sitting over there [gestures off camera] while he was doing the interviews.”

COOPER: “So, Giuliani knew every thing you were doing?”

PARNAS: “Everything.”

COOPER: “You’re saying Vice President Pence knew?”

PARNAS: “I don’t know if Vice President Pence knew everything we were doing.”

COOPER: “But he knew about the quid pro quo?”

PARNAS: “Of course. Everybody knew. Everybody that was close to Trump knew that this was a thorn in the side and this was a serious situation.”

COOPER: “Bolton?”

PARNAS: “Bolton.”

COOPER: “Mulvaney?”

PARNAS: “Mulvaney. Bolton, I think, didn’t agree with it. There were certain people who agreed with it and didn’t agree with it.”

COOPER: “He called it a drug deal, according to Fiona Hill.”

PARNAS: “I think Bolton is a very important witness, because I think between me and Bolton, we could fit in all the dots, because I was on the ground there [in Ukraine] and he was over here.”


Part two, aired Jan. 16, 2020


COOPER: “Explain that. You said that he [Trump] fired her [Yovanovich] in front of you?”

PARNAS: “That was the first interaction about her. We had a private dinner for a Super PAC in Washington, D.C., at the Trump hotel. In the conversation, the subject of Ukraine came up, and I told the president our opinion that she is bad-mouthing him and that she said he’s going to get impeached, something like that. I don’t know if that’s word-for-word.”

COOPER: “You said that at the table.”

PARNAS: “Correct.”

COOPER: “Where the president was.”

PARNAS: “Correct. His reaction was he looked at me, like, got very angry and turned around to John DeStefano and said, ‘Fire her. Get rid of her.'”


COOPER: “For a guy who doesn’t have contacts in Ukraine, you were able to get meetings with a lot of very important people in Ukraine. Why was that?”

PARNAS: “Well, I mean, if the president of the United States tells them to meet with you, I think anybody would meet with you.”


COOPER: “Rudy Giuliani said on speakerphone to the man who now runs Ukrainian intelligence that you represent Giuliani and the president?”

PARNAS: “Absolutely. No. The president, directly.”

COOPER: “You represent the president?”

PARNAS: “Correct. And that’s why they spoke to me, and that’s why I got out of there alive.”

COOPER: “You can say with absolute certainty that everything Rudy Giuliani did in Ukraine was done with the president’s blessing, whether or not he had foreknowledge or was told about it afterward, but Giuliani and the president were in frequent conversation.”

PARNAS: “Beyond frequent. Several times a day. Rudy wouldn’t do anything without the president’s authorization, just as I wouldn’t do anything without Rudy’s.”


COOPER: “The argument made by a lot of Republicans during the congressional hearings was not only that the president cares deeply about corruption in Ukraine, so this wasn’t just about personal benefit for the president, but that Zelensky himself has come forward and said, ‘I didn’t feel any pressure. There was no quid pro quo.’ You met with a whole host of people in his inner circle throughout the government . . .”

PARNAS: “That’s a lie. That’s a total lie. They’re still rocked to this day [in Ukraine]. They’re still not recovered, and I don’t know when they will.”

COOPER: “You have no doubt they felt this pressure.”

PARNAS: “Oh my God. Of course. Absolutely.”

COOPER: “This was an existential threat to their survival.”

PARNAS: “Well, my life was threatened because of that.”

COOPER: “So why do you think Zelensky says, ‘Oh no, there was no pressure. I didn’t feel any pressure’?”

PARNAS: “They are in an awkward position. I understand them. I’m not here to call them out an put them under the worst position.”

COOPER: “The awkward position is, if Zelensky says whatever he actually feels, he still needs aid from the Trump administration.”

PARNAS: “Obviously.”


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